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Address by Mayor Ross C. “Rocky” Anderson on October 27, 2007


Salt Lake City, Utah --

Today, as we come together once again in this great city, we raise our voices in unison to say to President Bush, to Vice President Cheney, to other members of the Bush Administration (past and present), to a majority of Congress, including Utah’s entire congressional delegation, and to much of the mainstream media: “You have failed us miserably and we won’t take it any more.”

“While we had every reason to expect far more of you, you have been pompous, greedy, cruel, and incompetent as you have led this great nation to a moral, military, and national security abyss.”

“You have breached trust with the American people in the most egregious ways. You have utterly failed in the performance of your jobs. You have undermined our Constitution, permitted the violation of the most fundamental treaty obligations, and betrayed the rule of law.”

“You have engaged in, or permitted, heinous human rights abuses of the sort never before countenanced in our nation’s history as a matter of official policy. You have sent American men and women to kill and be killed on the basis of lies, on the basis of shifting justifications, without competent leadership, and without even a coherent plan for this monumental blunder.”

“We are here to tell you: We won’t take it any more!”

“You have acted in direct contravention of values that we, as Americans who love our country, hold dear. You have deceived us in the most cynical, outrageous ways. You have undermined, or allowed the undermining of, our constitutional system of checks and balances among the three presumed co-equal branches of government. You have helped lead our nation to the brink of fascism, of a dictatorship contemptuous of our nation’s treaty obligations, federal statutory law, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

“Because of you, and because of your jingoistic false ‘patriotism,’ our world is far more dangerous, our nation is far more despised, and the threat of terrorism is far greater than ever before.

It has been absolutely astounding how you have committed the most horrendous acts, causing such needless tragedy in the lives of millions of people, yet you wear your so-called religion on your sleeves, asserting your God-is-on-my-side nonsense – when what you have done flies in the face of any religious or humanitarian tradition. Your hypocrisy is mind-boggling – and disgraceful. What part of “Thou shalt not kill” do you not understand? What part of the “Golden rule” do you not understand? What part of “be honest,” “be responsible,” and “be accountable” don’t you understand? What part of “Blessed are the peacekeepers” do you not understand?

Because of you, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, many thousands of people have suffered horrendous lifetime injuries, and millions have been run off from their homes. For the sake of our nation, for the sake of our children, and for the sake of our brothers and sisters around the world, we are morally compelled to say, as loudly as we can, ‘We won’t take it any more!’ ”

“As United States agents kidnap, disappear, and torture human beings around the world, you justify, you deceive, and you cover up. We find what you have done to men, women and children, and to the good name and reputation of the United States, so appalling, so unconscionable, and so outrageous as to compel us to call upon you to step aside and allow other men and women who are competent, true to our nation’s values, and with high moral principles to stand in your places – for the good of our nation, for the good of our children, and for the good of our world.”

In the case of the President and Vice President, this means impeachment and removal from office, without any further delay from a complacent, complicit Congress, the Democratic majority of which cares more about political gain in 2008 than it does about the vindication of our Constitution, the rule of law, and democratic accountability.

It means the election of people as President and Vice President who, unlike most of the presidential candidates from both major parties, have not aided and abetted in the perpetration of the illegal, tragic, devastating invasion and occupation of Iraq. And it means the election of people as President and Vice President who will commit to return our nation to the moral and strategic imperative of refraining from torturing human beings.

In the case of the majority of Congress, it means electing people who are diligent enough to learn the facts, including reading available National Intelligence Estimates, before voting to go to war. It means electing to Congress men and women who will jealously guard Congress’s sole prerogative to declare war. It means electing to Congress men and women who will not submit like vapid lap dogs to presidential requests for blank checks to engage in so-called preemptive wars, for legislation permitting warrantless wiretapping of communications involving US citizens, and for dangerous, irresponsible, saber-rattling legislation like the recent Kyl-Lieberman amendment.

We must avoid the trap of focusing the blame solely upon President Bush and Vice-President Cheney. This is not just about a few people who have wronged our country – and the world. They were enabled by members of both parties in Congress, they were enabled by the pathetic mainstream news media, and, ultimately, they have been enabled by the American people – 40% of whom are so ill-informed they still think Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks – a people who know and care more about baseball statistics and which drunken starlets are wearing underwear than they know and care about the atrocities being committed every single day in our name by a government for which we need to take responsibility.

As loyal Americans, without regard to political partisanship -- as veterans, as teachers, as religious leaders, as working men and women, as students, as professionals, as businesspeople, as public servants, as retirees, as people of all ages, races, ethnic origins, sexual orientations, and faiths -- we are here to say to the Bush administration, to the majority of Congress, and to the mainstream media: “You have violated your solemn responsibilities. You have undermined our democracy, spat upon our Constitution, and engaged in outrageous, despicable acts. You have brought our nation to a point of immorality, inhumanity, and illegality of immense, tragic, unprecedented proportions.”

“But we will live up to our responsibilities as citizens, as brothers and sisters of those who have suffered as a result of the imperial bullying of the United States government, and as moral actors who must take a stand: And we will, and must, mean it when we say ‘We won’t take it any more.’”

If we want principled, courageous elected officials, we need to be principled, courageous, and tenacious ourselves. History has demonstrated that our elected officials are not the leaders – the leadership has to come from us. If we don’t insist, if we don’t persist, then we are not living up to our responsibilities as citizens in a democracy – and our responsibilities as moral human beings. If we remain silent, we signal to Congress and the Bush administration – and to candidates running for office – and to the world – that we support the status quo.

Silence is complicity. Only by standing up for what’s right and never letting down can we say we are doing our part.

Our government, on the basis of a campaign we now know was entirely fraudulent, attacked and militarily occupied a nation that posed no danger to the United States. Our government, acting in our name, has caused immense, unjustified death and destruction.

It all started five years ago, yet where have we, the American people, been? At this point, we are responsible. We get together once in a while at demonstrations and complain about Bush and Cheney, about Congress, and about the pathetic news media. We point fingers and yell a lot. Then most people politely go away until another demonstration a few months later.

How many people can honestly say they have spent as much time learning about and opposing the outrages of the Bush administration as they have spent watching sports or mindless television programs during the past five years? Escapist, time-sapping sports and insipid entertainment have indeed become the opiate of the masses.

Why is this country so sound asleep? Why do we abide what is happening to our nation, to our Constitution, to the cause of peace and international law and order? Why are we not doing all in our power to put an end to this madness?

We should be in the streets regularly and students should be raising hell on our campuses. We should be making it clear in every way possible that apologies or convoluted, disingenuous explanations just don’t cut it when presidential candidates and so many others voted to authorize George Bush and his neo-con buddies to send American men and women to attack and occupy Iraq.

Let’s awaken, and wake up the country by committing here and now to do all each of us can to take our nation back. Let them hear us across the country, as we ask others to join us: “We won’t take it any more!”

I implore you: Draw a line. Figure out exactly where your own moral breaking point is. How much will you put up with before you say “No more” and mean it?

I have drawn my line as a matter of simple personal morality: I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has voted to fund the atrocities in Iraq. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who will not commit to remove all US troops, as soon as possible, from Iraq. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has supported legislation that takes us one step closer to attacking Iran. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has not fought to stop the kidnapping, disappearances, and torture being carried on in our name.

If we expect our nation’s elected officials to take us seriously, let us send a powerful message they cannot misunderstand. Let them know we really do have our moral breaking point. Let them know we have drawn a bright line. Let them know they cannot take our support for granted – that, regardless of their party and regardless of other political considerations, they will not have our support if they cannot provide, and have not provided, principled leadership.

The people of this nation may have been far too quiet for five years, but let us pledge that we won’t let it go on one more day – that we will do all we can to put an end to the illegalities, the moral degradation, and the disintegration of our nation’s reputation in the world.

Let us be unified in drawing the line – in declaring that we do have a moral breaking point. Let us insist, together, in supporting our troops and in gratitude for the freedoms for which our veterans gave so much, that we bring our troops home from Iraq, that we return our government to a constitutional democracy, and that we commit to honoring the fundamental principles of human rights.

In defense of our country, in defense of our Constitution, in defense of our shared values as Americans – and as moral human beings – we declare today that we will fight in every way possible to stop the insanity, stop the continued military occupation of Iraq, and stop the moral depravity reflected by the kidnapping, disappearing, and torture of people around the world.

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This is a phenomenal speech. It provides the moral leadership that this nation has lacked for too many years. It is like a refreshing wind blowing over the land.
It is a rallying cry for sanity and human decency.
If we can't get behind these values, then we are really lost as a people.

BRAVO! Mayor "Rocky" Anderson and THANKING you again and again for your INSPIRING speeches! An Animation video on YouTube. LINK www.lovetheconstitution.com Look what the Bush gang did to the Constitution.

Bravo Mayor!!!!

Congressman Ron Paul has been saying exactly same thing in front of congress for years. http://www.house.gov/paul

Tell it like it is. This man is an elected official. I'd like to elect him to higher office. He talks like I think and feel.
He cites the depressing facts, that Americans know more about sports info than the facts that determine their national security and the fate of their children and planet, because they have been lied to about the latter by the president, vice-president, and all other officials who, we are taught, would never lie to us, because they are honorable servants whose job is to uphold the Constitutions.
What a mess. Rocky isn't afraid to confront it. Thank you, Rocky!
SO proud to have you on the board of Progressive Democrats of America.
Mimi Kennedy, Chair, PDA

We're forming the New Broom Coalition- so far 12 candidates for Congress running on an impeachment platform- various political parties. http://sances.info/newbroom/ Would Rocky consider joining us as a Congressional candidate? Peace, Carol Wolman

So Rocky is a "progressive" democrat. Does that mean he is a "tax them into oblivion" socialist? Too bad, some of his rant sounded pretty good. When can we get balanced candidates, maybe a libertarian/constitutionalist prototype?

Libertarians are just souped-up capitalists, about "free markets" with no government regulation. Libertarians would actually not like to be tied down with a little thing like "the Constitution ", so that the United States could be the Corporate States instead... Constitutionalists, on the other hand, believe in govt by and for FREE PEOPLE, with regulation and taxation on corporations that are non-persons.

I can't believe I'm falling for this troll, nevertheless I feel compelled to point out that Libertarians are pro-'free market' not pro-Corporatism. Please learn the difference.

Gee, Yank I thought by now you'd have gotten bored with trying to stop people from checking out what we're really advocate by lying about us.

We can speak for our selves, thank you.

http://www.libertarianism.com/

http://www.smallgov.org/?p=195

So you think the anti-abortionist theocrats are the real champions of liberty?

What a crock.

---The Bikenmessenger

Founding Fathers NEVER said "And Un-taxed, Non-Regulated FREE MARKET$ Corporation$ are persons."

Your Freudian $lip is showing...Showing your true colors , Robert :(
You really don't want corporations to be bogged down with that governmental BY THE PEOPLE Constitution thingy , do you?

You do know that libertarianism is with you on the not treating corporations as persons issue, right?

so no, I do not believe that. When you listen carefully, the concepts of libertarianism actually CATER to corporations ... smaller government, de-regulation, no taxes. It sounds like you want corporations to have MORE rights and privileges than persons.

It's as if Ron Paul supporters are willing to cut off their right arms for corporations but praise Ron Paul for letting them keep their left arms!

so no, I do not believe that. When you listen carefully, the concepts of libertarianism actually CATER to corporations ... smaller government, de-regulation, no taxes. It sounds like you want corporations to have MORE rights and privileges than persons.

It's as if Ron Paul supporters are willing to cut off their right arms for corporations but praise Ron Paul for letting them keep their left arms!

That's a bunch of bullshit and you know that, we need to keep goverment out of our backs and out of our life.

You can hate ron paul all you want, because he is fighting for this country and not for himself.

I do not hate Ron Paul, he seems like a nice enuf man with a lot of bizarre ideas that won't work. I do not listen to his bedside manner, I listen to his thoughts. He is a doctor, a self-employed businessman, he does not know how working men and women struggle for wages and medical insurance and benefits. He claims to care about people, but his concepts would only keep government off the backs of corporations, and THE PEOPLE would become poorer and suffer more struggles. Corporations would then take advantage of THE PEOPLE more than ever , under a FREE MARKETS libertarian president. All you have to say in support of Ron Paul is "bullshit!". No thank you.

Respectfully, you are way off base. As a doctor he has seen people from almost every walk of life, knows more about medical insurance re: the public than almost anyone, and views their struggles daily. I also know (from age) that in the 50's there was MUCH more charitable and religious organizations that offered FREE health care than there is now (due to horrific government regulations). Also many more jobs than now (also due to costly govt. regulations when one hires people). Ron Paul KNOWS how this system will work properly. One must realize this is NOT socialism here. The govt. does NOT tax others to support you from womb to tomb. When we keep our taxes we the PEOPLE can supply what others need. Do not be defrauded, scared and confused. The US works fine when the Constitution is followed, and we can live in PEACE!

Judge what the man says, rather than trot out some tired stereotype. Have you not been paying attention to what the right has done? How about 10 billion in debt? I personally would prefer tax and spend to borrow and spend.
If we have the services we have to pay for it. Look at historic tax policy and economic performance, and you will see that the real problem is the current tax policy --- tax the middle class and let the top 0.1% loot everyone else. And I say this as someone in the top 0.5% of income earners in the US. I can pay it --- but maybe your children won't be able to. Get a clue
Drew

Yeah! As a member of PDA, I am also inspired by Rocky's speech. Let's see more of him. Let's work together to elect Rocky to higher office!

One issue I think we all need to learn about is the effects of depleted uranium, which is just as big, if not bigger than global warming. Research Leuren Moret.

Thank you, Rocky, PDA, and After Downing Street!

This is the clearest, most courageous call I've heard from someone speaking the truth for all of us. Encouraging indeed that someone in elected office is speaking out with such clarity and laser-like focus. Even before I saw the comment above, I sent it out to a friend under the subject, "Rocky For President." Sure beats some of the Bulwinkles we have running now.

Steve Bhaerman

To generate for publicity to the pro-peace agenda. Spread the words.

Check out -

www.ronpaul2008.com

He is what you are looking for!

He's the only one who has the best record in congress than any other in american history.

He's also the one that could get us out of the UN immediately.

I Just registered republican recently to vote for him in the primaries, paul could well be the thomas jefferson/ronald reagan of our time.

We need a ronald reagan type president.

He seems a viable candidate to bridge a great chasm...however his anti Roe V. Wade stance makes this untenable.

Many of his other 'issues' are admirable and desirable. Ultimately he is not giving a mother a right to choose...yes you can go round in circles that this right to choose is before conception...no I am not going there ;-)

If you bring up abortion in this presidential election, you've missed the point.

(I am a strong advocate for the woman's right to abortion and a supporter of Ron Paul. Without a constitutional government and balance of powers, there is no issue of Roe v. Wade or anything else because what the Supreme Court says no longer matters. The Supreme Court's power only comes from the respect it gets from the executive and legislative branches. Without balance of power, Roe v. Wade is meaningless.)

Ron Paul's stance is that the federal government should have no say on the matter of abortion. It is a state issue and should be handled locally. The same goes for same sex marriages.

He has also said that this should be a state issue, not a federal one. His thinking is that a topic this controversial deserves to be decided by the people. And the farther down the political ladder things are pushed the more power the normal citizens have over the issues. I think most people would agree this is generally a good thing, even if they happen to agree with the stance the federal government has taken on said issue. So I think even if you are fiercely pro-choice you could get behind Ron Paul.

Please visit here: http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/

Dr. Paul's views cannot be captured in the sound bite form that the media uses. Every time I got a media sound bite of some Ron Paul view that on the surface wouldn't be something I agreed with, I read more and found out the real view often was quite different.

Anyway, there would not be federal thugs preventing abortions, simply there would be no federal involvement, period. Provided the courts and the congress sided with Dr. Paul, and well maybe they would maybe they wouldn't.

I don't understand why people are so concerned about a president's views on things he constitutionally cannot change on his own. Be concerned with what the president can change. And there is where Dr. Paul can help the most. End of the empire and getting rid of all the horrible executive orders and signing statements.

I agree that the anti-abortion stance is a 'turn-off,' to put it lightly. There's a reason he's Republican and not straight Libertarian and the pro-life stuff has a lot to do with that.

However, I have to pick and choose my battles. I'm with Paul 95% and that's better than anyone else on the field. Everyone else scores in the low 25 percentile. And beyond that, I really feel that he's beyond the corruption that plagues both parties. Speaking to him feels like talking to my grandfather. It's like the political grease never sunk in and sullied him. ;)

To me, our civil liberties and the preservation of our country is more of a priority. No, I'm not talking about some one world government or evil organization, haha! Honest to goodness, we're going to go out the realistic way, by going bankrupt.

Adrienne Pass

Then vote for him. I don't expect Ron Paul to be your clone so I would vote for the most decent and intelligent, etc person running and to me, that is Ron Paul.

WTF is wrong with you Ron-Paul-Firsters - didn't you even notice just now that he COMPLETELY BETRAYED ALL CONSTITUTIONALISTS by VOTING TO TABLE H.RES 799?!! That was Kucinich's resolution to IMPEACH THE VICE FUCKING PRICK CHENEY.

I earlier called John Conyers "motherfucker" for refusing to move on impeachement, yet even he didn't vote TO TABLE it! But RON PAUL FUCKING DID - and that was a vote not just to kill impeachment but to actually BLOCK ALL FURTHER DISCUSSION OF IT!

There is simply no excuse - no conceivable justification - for such a vote by Ron Paul - after ALL HE HAS CLAIMED IN SUPPORT OF CONSTITUTIONALITY - other than to reveal that, when the chips are down, he is a FUCKING LIAR AND NO FRIEND OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. If he WON'T EVEN PROSECUTE CONSTITUTIONAL CRIMINALS OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE then Ron Paul can take all his bullshit talk about NAFTA, independence from the UN and individual liberty and shove it up his ass!

Semper Fi,

-Matty in Florida

Amen Matty, they are littering our highways too with their kooky "Who's Ron Paul?" posters . The facts don't matter to his supporters, they don't grasp that this guy wants to be LIBERATED from and un-tethered by the Constitution... he is not a Constitutionalist at all. Libertarianism is capitalism with no bounds, no taxes, and then released upon and against THE PEOPLE. Ron Paul has invented the NEW BIG LIE by claiming falsely that that is "constitutional". I have never seen so many people so economically brainwashed since Sc-Amway!

That's your opinion, But ron paul is not a capitalist nor controlled by corporations the way the idiotic two party system does and by the way bastards, see this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UydCZJeQPPQ

I Never seen kucinich talk about the IRS, The Federal Reserve and the income tax, they are ruining this country and ron paul can change all that.

Neocons are the real corporist and globalist, not libertarians.

Have you ever stopped to analyze why you hate the IRS, Federal Reserve, and income tax? Or do you just blindly hate whatever Ron Paul commands you to hate?!

How in the world is Ron Paul going to live in the White House when there is no government revenue to support him from taxes? He will have to be president from his doctor's office, and outsource his Cabinet administrators oversees , since he does not believe the government should generate revenue.

Kucinich wants to stop CORRUPTION, not the things being corrupted.

As an OB-GYN, Ron Paul should know better than to throw the baby out with the bath water. But he doesn't have a lick of common sense!

I Want you to see this video at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UydCZJeQPPQ

The IRS, The Federal Reserve and the income tax are ruining this country, they are unconstitutional and dangerous, they have been since 1913.

If kucinich becomes president, we still gonna be controlled by the UN and that has to go immediately.

The UN and others will control your lives.

Neocons are the same as Nazis, we must agree with the Neocons or we are labeled "traitors" or whatever.

My problem with Ron Paul is not that he wants to get out of a destructive foreign policy, my problem with Ron Paul is that he wants to destroy the revenue of our goverment. He wants to put all that revenue back into the hands of the capitalists! Capitalists hate paying taxes. He just wants the rich to be rich , and the American middle class to disappear.

I notice that Ron Paul supporters stopped saying that he will destroy the Social Security Administration. I don't trust Ron Paul supporters anymore than I trust Ron Paul!

Ron Paul does not want to get of goverment, he wants small goverment.

He wants to get of IRS, The Federal Reserve and the income tax.

No thank you

If kucinich is against the IRS, The Income Tax and the federal reserve, then I Vote for him, but I Never see him talk about that, so he does not get my vote, I Never supported him in the first place.

That's I Support ron paul and so does every moderate republican and conserative democrat in after downing street

Kucinich is for Social Security Administration, that is why Ron Paul will never win over Americans.

There are a very few rabid Ron Paul supporters on this site.

That's a bunch of hogwash, paul is for the people as well, while we ron paul supporters appreciate kucinich for his intregity, determination and honesty, but we also disagree about his issues, so for us, A Vote for ron paul will make kucinich vice president.

See this video at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVzkceT521A

then why INSIST that we must follow Ron Paul?
I have seen videos aplenty where Ron Paul has spoken on many subjects, both foreign and domestic . I will not be brainwashed into voting for Ron Paul simply by watching MORE of the same. No thank you.

But for Me, A Paul/Kucinich Unity ticket will save this country.

Go to http://www.unity08.com

Which one would be president? You just told us you would not vote Kucinich, yet you would want Kucinich second in line to be president. This is the problem I have with Ron Paul supporters, too chaotic and unpredictable, makes no sense.

Ron Paul's stand on Social Security has not changed. Maybe people *reporting* on his stand have changed. His voting record and his published essays make it clear he is adamant about supporting the people who have already paid into the system. The government has already taken their money (by force no less) and they deserve to be paid.

He has voted and/or introduced legislation in the past to restore a proper accounting of Social Security funds (to not list them as 'assets') and to make sure they cannot be raided by other budgetary needs, to ensure than illegal aliens cannot collect Social Security, and various other things. He has presented various ideas about reforming Social Security *going forward* including a possible opt-out system, but I do not think he has committed to any particular plan yet (I won't try to speak for him there).

Social Security reform *going forward* is a touchy and difficult issue, and I would hope he would give it due consideration and collect advice from competent people. Given his past record and the number of essays he has published showing his thought process, I think this is exactly what would happen.

Not one cent of the money collected by the IRS goes to run the country. It goes straight to the pockets of the SOBs who own the Federal Reserve System. It goes to pay the interest on the money our corrupt politicians borrowed from the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a private corporation and they create money out of thin air, then charge us full face value plus interest. The average American works 4 months a year for those bastards.
Gee why do I hate the IRS? I guess it's just because Ron told me to. Or maybe it was Andrew Jackson.
"You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out... If people only understood the rank injustice of the money and banking system, there would be a revolution by morning."
Andrew Jackson
If you don't know what you are talking about it might be best to stay out of the discussion.

If you would read the Constitution it tells you want the people gave the government the power to tax!!! You are one brainwashed sheep living in America. A no clue citizen.

We are still gonna vote for ron paul, because all these so-called organizations like the UN Have got to go, they are hurting this country and the world, go pick up alex jones's end game and you'll see why I Mean.

Kucinich is nothing more than an open borders, gun grabber and we conseratives are not gonna take it anymore, I Don't care if paul is for impeachment or not, vote for him and this country will be changed forever

Paul is certainly better than these neo-cons like fred shitson and rudolph the rednose bulliani who are nothing but facists and neocons to the highest orders.

Impeachment or not, paul is our last hope for america.

Paul is right, not only we go to wars without a declaration, we also go under UN Resolution and that to me is criminal.

The UN Must go NOW!

NOT better

But he's certainly better than all of these candidates put together

and he doesn't want to get rid of goverment, he wants to get rid of the illegal federal reserve and the IRS, Those have been ruining the country for nearly 100 years and paul wants to go back to the gold standard.

I Never seen kucinich talk about the IRS, The Federal reserve that's really ruining our country and causing bankruptcy.

and if you want to be friends with other countries, you don't need the UN, NAFTA, WTO, IMF, The World Bank, CAFTA, ICC, GATT, ICC, Peru Free Trade Agreement and the upcoming North American Union nor the New World Order

and if you want to save the planet and protect the earth from global warming, you should let the states and local goverments handle that not federal goverment.

While I Praise kucinich for the impeachment of dick cheney, I Will not jump on the bandwagon and vote for him, because I Disagree with some of his issues.

They just say he is going to destroy IRS, Social Security Admin (although I hear that one less and less,,,hmmm) , and Federal Reserve. He sounds like a destroyer of our nation, NOT a builder.

What is Ron Paul going to do AFTER he destroys the IRS, Social Security Admin, and Federal Reserve? Just watch the destruction?

I am more interested in his "Morning After" scenario.

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